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Dear Elmorelab community,
It is increasingly clear to me that a lot of people cannot handle the freedom clicker gives. Though I want people to stay in game, and I do not wish to be the one reporting them for AFK, I believe that Captcha, like the one on Reborn would solve a lot of problems, both with botters and the increased numbers of AFK clickers that roam Elmorelab.

A lot of people I've talked to don't like the constant AFK'ing of some people. And a lot of people don't think it's a problem.

I do not like clicker and especially AFK clicking for varies reasons:

1) Knowing and playing your class:
People do not know or play their classes: Why is this a problem? First of all it is EXTREMEly important to play your class, because people's lives are at stake. Tanks that don't agro mobs coz they are AFK let their "active" healers and buffers die all the time all day long. BDs and SWS will try to remedy the situation, but ultimately they are not tanks and spending MP on saving party members mean they can't do the job they are supposed to. Party members don't see or even try to help with unforseen things. Not that seeing half a party getting stuck in a wall isn't funny!

2) XP
I fear that there will be an a team a) and team b) on Elmore. People who all the time just bench series on Netflix while their characters run for 15 hours straight with no strain at all. I can do 20 hours sure, once or twice I guess, but at great cost on my health and family. Whilst other's just go AFK, leveling both faster and more effortlessly than others.

3) Community
How does all this clicking affect the community. Well lots of time there's hardly any communication in parties apart from "Who is MA"? And a worrisome rumors about this being the legit botting server.
Personally I look to the future of the server and see the many new XP spots in store for us where clicking is NOT as accessible as others. Meaning a lot will quit coz they spent a year xping without really playing the game. Now the actually have to put in the work.

My suggestion:
As a start, I would love to get rid of the botters and make people play, make people at the computer. AFK clicking sucks for us all in the long run and makes Elmore a really hollow server to play at times. The only way for this to truly happen efficiently I believe is with a Captcha system. This will also free up some time for the GMs to continue the amazing work they are doing in improving the server and promoting it. Also Captcha wouldn't really affect Clicker would it? I mean AFK clicker is already illegal, so it would just make it easier to stop those that do. Also why play a hardcore 1x server in the first place, if you don't plan on actually xping. :D Paradox?

Cheers,

Leucothea, ArtemisDK Teon 1x
 
Поддерживаю предыдущего оратора. Слишком прихуели уже 70% на кликерах после легализации этого дерьма
 
Не согласен

1) Менять правила по ходу, немножко не красиво
2) Кликерщики не афк, они сидят за ПК, иначе цена проверки и бана запредельно высока
3)Капча принесет вред большинству обычных людей
 
Leucothea said:
Dear Elmorelab community,
It is increasingly clear to me that a lot of people cannot handle the freedom clicker gives. Though I want people to stay in game, and I do not wish to be the one reporting them for AFK, I believe that Captcha, like the one on Reborn would solve a lot of problems, both with botters and the increased numbers of AFK clickers that roam Elmorelab.

A lot of people I've talked to don't like the constant AFK'ing of some people. And a lot of people don't think it's a problem.

I do not like clicker and especially AFK clicking for varies reasons:

1) Knowing and playing your class:
People do not know or play their classes: Why is this a problem? First of all it is EXTREMEly important to play your class, because people's lives are at stake. Tanks that don't agro mobs coz they are AFK let their "active" healers and buffers die all the time all day long. BDs and SWS will try to remedy the situation, but ultimately they are not tanks and spending MP on saving party members mean they can't do the job they are supposed to. Party members don't see or even try to help with unforseen things. Not that seeing half a party getting stuck in a wall isn't funny!

2) XP
I fear that there will be an a team a) and team b) on Elmore. People who all the time just bench series on Netflix while their characters run for 15 hours straight with no strain at all. I can do 20 hours sure, once or twice I guess, but at great cost on my health and family. Whilst other's just go AFK, leveling both faster and more effortlessly than others.

3) Community
How does all this clicking affect the community. Well lots of time there's hardly any communication in parties apart from "Who is MA"? And a worrisome rumors about this being the legit botting server.
Personally I look to the future of the server and see the many new XP spots in store for us where clicking is NOT as accessible as others. Meaning a lot will quit coz they spent a year xping without really playing the game. Now the actually have to put in the work.

My suggestion:
As a start, I would love to get rid of the botters and make people play, make people at the computer. AFK clicking sucks for us all in the long run and makes Elmore a really hollow server to play at times. The only way for this to truly happen efficiently I believe is with a Captcha system. This will also free up some time for the GMs to continue the amazing work they are doing in improving the server and promoting it. Also Captcha wouldn't really affect Clicker would it? I mean AFK clicker is already illegal, so it would just make it easier to stop those that do. Also why play a hardcore 1x server in the first place, if you don't plan on actually xping. :D Paradox?

Cheers,

Leucothea, ArtemisDK Teon 1x

So why you dont try to find a party with non-clickers? Ive been exping with you today and some of ppl in our group were on auto clickers, and if u dont Like it - why u didnt leave and were staying in party for 5 hours? Lol
 
Lime said:
Не согласен

1) Менять правила по ходу, немножко не красиво
2) Кликерщики не афк, они сидят за ПК, иначе цена проверки и бана запредельно высока
3)Капча принесет вред большинству обычных людей

Уважаемый , тебе место на РуОффе с кнопкой автобоя.
 
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Lime said:
Не согласен

1) Менять правила по ходу, немножко не красиво
2) Кликерщики не афк, они сидят за ПК, иначе цена проверки и бана запредельно высока
3)Капча принесет вред большинству обычных людей

Уважаемый , тебе место на РуОффе с кнопкой автобоя.
Не нужно крайностей

Это не одно и тоже

Я не вижу проблемы в одосложном кликере на ассист, требующем твоего присутствия

Проблема преувеличена
 
Прибежал сегодня в Круму. Взяли в одну пати , из 9 тел-7 АФК. Асистер резко поворачивает за угол и 7 рыл теребонят писюн в углу. Свалил от них, нашел другую пати, там такая же беда.
 
Collapse said:
Прибежал сегодня в Круму. Взяли в одну пати , из 9 тел-7 АФК. Асистер резко поворачивает за угол и 7 рыл теребонят писюн в углу. Свалил от них, нашел другую пати, там такая же беда.

Я думаю что запрет кликера это борьба со следствием, и думаю что это не повлияет на причину.

Только больше людей за нарушение отлетать начнут

2022. Такая вот л2. Даже те, кто убежал с новых хроник, уже не справляется с базой - клацать ручками
 
Мое мнение никому не интересно, но на Реборн не пошла именно из-за капчи. Хотя уже за месяц до открытия Элмора хотелось побегать на лоурейтах с одним окном.
На кликерщиков все равно. Что я тыкаю кнопки ручками в той же пати в Круме, что за него тыкает кнопки макрос. Он от этого быстрее не качается.
 
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Lime said:
Не согласен

1) Менять правила по ходу, немножко не красиво
2) Кликерщики не афк, они сидят за ПК, иначе цена проверки и бана запредельно высока
3)Капча принесет вред большинству обычных людей

Уважаемый , тебе место на РуОффе с кнопкой автобоя.

А ты когда нибудь пользовался клицкеромс?
 
Collapse said:
Прибежал сегодня в Круму. Взяли в одну пати , из 9 тел-7 АФК. Асистер резко поворачивает за угол и 7 рыл теребонят писюн в углу. Свалил от них, нашел другую пати, там такая же беда.

То есть, беда в том, что раздающий асист - резко поворачивает за угол и персонажи застревают, теребоня писюн? Ну так проблема в раздающем тогда, раз он не умеет быть МА... :roll:
 
Are we playing on the same server Teon x1 elmorelab? Last time i checked you could get captcha and ban for being afk on clicker. (And people are getting banned there is section in discord and forum where you can check.)

1) Knowing and playing your class:
At start when there was no information that clicker is ok, do you think physical classes were looking at screen and targeting each their own targets? Ofc no, because assisting is more effective and you need one ma (ma can rotate) and you still press just one mouse button while watching netflix.
Your bad party experience is not whole community, you know what to do if they are afk - report, let them die, leave pt create your own.

2) XP
Stop placing AFK and clickers toogether in one sentence.You cannot farm without live party unless you are farming Keltirs, you need to have supports and ma and no one wants to be ma for 15h straight. Go to LOA, AN, FT, DV and try doing trains with how you say afk clickers and see what happens.


3) Community
Have you played other servers at all? If you think pressing one button is botting i have bad news for you. Lot of people quit game every day, stop worrying about them concentrate on your own game.
So you want me to pick targets and chat with you, while trying to avoid getting hits from mobs, while you are sitting on your ass (let's assume you are EE who spent all mp by recharging) and is bored.


My suggestion to you:
a) Stop worry about others how they play the game, will they quit or not. (In case of breaking rules you know what to do.
b) Make your own party and power will be in your hands, to punish as you say "afk clickers" by letting them die, kicking from party etc.
c) Try to play on "afk clicker" and tell us about your easy farm experience.

P.S.
For me personally i don't care if they introduce captcha more often or not. As for afk it is in peoples nature, saying they will go afk for 5 minutes while in reallity they go away for 30 minutes or sleep, one button clicker does not make it better or worst.
 
Aktimel said:
Are we playing on the same server Teon x1 elmorelab? Last time i checked you could get captcha and ban for being afk on clicker. (And people are getting banned there is section in discord and forum where you can check.)

1) Knowing and playing your class:
At start when there was no information that clicker is ok, do you think physical classes were looking at screen and targeting each their own targets? Ofc no, because assisting is more effective and you need one ma (ma can rotate) and you still press just one mouse button while watching netflix.
Your bad party experience is not whole community, you know what to do if they are afk - report, let them die, leave pt create your own.

2) XP
Stop placing AFK and clickers toogether in one sentence.You cannot farm without live party unless you are farming Keltirs, you need to have supports and ma and no one wants to be ma for 15h straight. Go to LOA, AN, FT, DV and try doing trains with how you say afk clickers and see what happens.


3) Community
Have you played other servers at all? If you think pressing one button is botting i have bad news for you. Lot of people quit game every day, stop worrying about them concentrate on your own game.
So you want me to pick targets and chat with you, while trying to avoid getting hits from mobs, while you are sitting on your ass (let's assume you are EE who spent all mp by recharging) and is bored.


My suggestion to you:
a) Stop worry about others how they play the game, will they quit or not. (In case of breaking rules you know what to do.
b) Make your own party and power will be in your hands, to punish as you say "afk clickers" by letting them die, kicking from party etc.
c) Try to play on "afk clicker" and tell us about your easy farm experience.

P.S.
For me personally i don't care if they introduce captcha more often or not. As for afk it is in peoples nature, saying they will go afk for 5 minutes while in reallity they go away for 30 minutes or sleep, one button clicker does not make it better or worst.

Agree!
 
Не вижу в этом проблемы, в 99% случаев люди находятся у монитора, и нормально общаются в пати, если есть интересная тема для обсуждения. Автоматизация рутинных вещей и есть прогресс, нет? Зачем сидеть часами клацать пкм на рутинном каче, если можно нажать 1 клавишу?
Плюс, в том самом 1% случаев, когда в пати есть 100% афк - люди сами его наказывают и ведут под мобов, ресают и раздевают до гола. Считаю законным и справедливым сие действие
 
Folch said:
Плюс, в том самом 1% случаев, когда в пати есть 100% афк - люди сами его наказывают и ведут под мобов, ресают и раздевают до гола. Считаю законным и справедливым сие действие

Отличный способ борьбы с особо злоупотребляющими ) Браво!
 
Исходя из личных наблюдей в круме, могу с уверенностью сказать, что 20-30% на кликере даже не смотрят в монитор, как по мне пару дней бдительного контроля администрации за этим процессом решит эту проблему, пяток банов в день можно насобирать я думаю, если пробежаться вечерком по локации
 
Nerona said:
Мое мнение никому не интересно, но на Реборн не пошла именно из-за капчи. Хотя уже за месяц до открытия Элмора хотелось побегать на лоурейтах с одним окном.

Та же история. Зашёл к ним, увидел обучение по вводу капчи и решил, что ну их нафиг :D
По теме - банить больше и чаще, пока не начнут бояться кликеров на каче как огня. И самим ПЛам и ассистерам кикакть сразу афкшников - будем легитам счастье.
 
Folch said:
Не вижу в этом проблемы, в 99% случаев люди находятся у монитора, и нормально общаются в пати, если есть интересная тема для обсуждения. Автоматизация рутинных вещей и есть прогресс, нет? Зачем сидеть часами клацать пкм на рутинном каче, если можно нажать 1 клавишу?
Плюс, в том самом 1% случаев, когда в пати есть 100% афк - люди сами его наказывают и ведут под мобов, ресают и раздевают до гола. Считаю законным и справедливым сие действие

Не знаю, я хоть и баффер, но мне тоже тошно смотреть как 1 человек потеет, дает ассист, а остальные тупо как в афк и при переходе в другую комнату несутся в стену.
Вчера вообще вышел из пати асситер и 5 человек побежали в последнюю комнату бить мобов как на боте, вообще очень странное поведение, проверку при этом люди прошли.
 
Мне 2 дня назад вечером в круме прилетела капча, поэтому автор может быть спокоен)
 
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