Please, requesting Latin America Proxy !!!

[Anmo]

Hello Elmore Lab!
This is mostly to the administration team, although ideas and recommendations are accepted.
I would like to request considering openning a proxy for players living in America.
It's impossible to play without a South/American proxy, there is huge playerbase from America/South America.
Please consider to introducing a proxy for all this players and clans. It's ultimately unfair to people playing from that continent.

-As a person living for the time being in Latin America I can confirm, I play other games without a single problem, without lag.
In elmorelab I get stable 1 second delay, if not more, and sometimes it gets to 3 seconds.
(260 Mbps download/260 mbps upload speed | In case someone asks) - Test by Ookla


Kindest regards

 

[dominion]

авторский перевод:

Привет команда Эльмор Лаб!
Этот топик в основном для администрации, но принимаются любые идеи и рекомендации.
Хотел бы попросить обдумать возможность открыть прокси для игроков, живущих в Америке.
Невозможно играть без южноамериканского / американского прокси, в двух Америках существует огромная масса игроков.
Пожалуйста, подумайте над тем, чтобы предоставить прокси для всех этих игроков и кланов. Это просто несправедливо для игроков с этого (этих) континента (-тов).

-Как человек на данный момент живущий в Латинской Америке могу подтвердить, в другие игры играю без единой проблемы, без лагов. Тут же, на ЭльморЛабе у меня стабильная секундная задержка, если не больше, иногда прыгает до 3х сек.
(260 Мгб в сек скачка/260 мгб в сек загрузка, если интересно) - тестировал Ookla.

С наилучшими пожеланиями (рисунок ниньдзя)

 

[reddish]

@Murloc
Any advise?
Thanks.

 

[Murloc]

Hello, we are actively looking for options, but we cannot find a suitable solution yet. If you understand this and can give us a hint, we will be very grateful
At the moment our players are using exitlag. Maybe this will help a little

 

[Anmo]

Hello, we are actively looking for options, but we cannot find a suitable solution yet. If you understand this and can give us a hint, we will be very grateful
At the moment our players are using exitlag. Maybe this will help a little

I understand that a lot of players use this, because they have told me about it. But I find it still unfair the fact that I will have to pay, even a low ammount, in order to play in lag-free environment. Let's say OK, it's not expensive, but it's every-month.

As I said it's not about the price, it's about what's fair.
What about casual players who don't find worth to pay for a program just to play a L2 server in their free-time?
Yes time-invested clans might pay, because they have no other option.
In-fact I know some players who play with this delay, and don't want to pay for a program to play.

I think I will sit and wait for any solution, that will help us improve the gameplay.
I'm occasionally thinking into paying the program, but I find it wrong.
I was originally playing from europe, and as a player who transfered from europe to latin america..
I can say for sure, that the diffrence of the gameplay is entirely different. I can't seem to get used to it.

 

[Геранька]

I tried Mudfish, it's the most cheap option (you get 50gb for 5$ USD). There are nodes in Argentina, Brazil and Chile. I'm somewhere between US and Chile, and it's giving me 160ms~. I get at least half playing in a US server, I imagine people in Europe get 40ms or less.

The difference is so stupid, I'm picking up items TWICE as fast.

Europe - 0-20 ping. Siberia 90-110 ping. China 140-160. I play from Siberia, tolerable.

 

[Anmo]

I'm really looking forward to a solution other than players having to pay monthly subscriptions to programs.

I tried Mudfish, it's the most cheap option (you get 50gb for 5$ USD). There are nodes in Argentina, Brazil and Chile. I'm somewhere between US and Chile, and it's giving me 160ms~. I get at least half playing in a US server, I imagine people in Europe get 40ms or less.

The difference is so stupid, I'm picking up items TWICE as fast.

Yes, that's about it. When I was playing from europe I had 0 delay, 0 problems.

 

[Anmo]

This is a recent conversation to Chinese clan Dragon clan leader, players from china also have the same problem, they have to pay programs to play. He gave me green light to post this conversation.


He also mentioned there are japanese players who will benefit of asian proxy in the server.
I definetly know 1 ally of china, and 1 ally of latinoamericanos.
I think it can be safe to assume that they are a part of this community/project

 

[PepeTheHero]

I understand that a lot of players use this, because they have told me about it. But I find it still unfair the fact that I will have to pay, even a low ammount, in order to play in lag-free environment. Let's say OK, it's not expensive, but it's every-month.
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As I said it's not about the price, it's about what's fair.
What about casual players who don't find worth to pay for a program just to play a L2 server in their free-time?
Yes time-invested clans might pay, because they have no other option.
In-fact I know some players who play with this delay, and don't want to pay for a program to play.

I think I will sit and wait for any solution, that will help us improve the gameplay.
I'm occasionally thinking into paying the program, but I find it wrong.
I was originally playing from europe, and as a player who transfered from europe to latin america..
I can say for sure, that the diffrence of the gameplay is entirely different. I can't seem to get used to it.

I'm gonna be real with you. Its not their problem you lagging on the european server and how much money do you think they (elmorelab) make every month by selling hats, nickname colours and from donations?

You think its unfair for ppl from another region to pay for proxy? Well, welcome in to the world, Buddy! That how we play on different regions for past 20 years. Its just how things are. You should never expect that somebody will pay for you just so you could play from different region. You came to them and accepted their location.

How much money do you think EL makes? Can they afford it? From what I've seen (from ru flaim) when ppl were talking about adrenaline,bot detection and they asked Murloc, he left expression that they struggling with money and they cannot afford good solutions to those problems.

So, you better to find solution ur self and not wait for others to do it for you, when they didnt even agreed to help you from the beginning

 

[Anmo]

I'm gonna be real with you. Its not their problem you lagging on the european server and how much money do you think they (elmorelab) make every month by selling hats, nickname colours and from donations?

You think its unfair for ppl from another region to pay for proxy? Well, welcome in to the world, Buddy! That how we play on different regions for past 20 years. Its just how things are. You should never expect that somebody will pay for you just so you could play from different region. You came to them and accepted their location.

How much money do you think EL makes? Can they afford it? From what I've seen (from ru flaim) when ppl were talking about adrenaline,bot detection and they asked Murloc, he left expression that they struggling with money and they cannot afford good solutions to those problems.

So, you better to find solution ur self and not wait for others to do it for you, when they didnt even agreed to help you from the beginning

This is a recommendation/request, and a reminder that there are communities that play from other regions as well.
Also, what continent are you playing from that you have to pay for program?(Just wondering)
It doesn't hurt to recommend something. Also I see a bunch of proxies that people confirm that aren't helpful anyway.

Solution?
Maybe just disconnect some of this proxies that aren't being used, and that are anyway near the server location.
(London, Madrid, Amsterdam) And in their place, can add some proxies that can actually be helpful to the community.
@Murloc

 

[Murloc]

This is a recommendation/request, and a reminder that there are communities that play from other regions as well.
Also, what continent are you playing from that you have to pay for program?(Just wondering)
It doesn't hurt to recommend something. Also I see a bunch of proxies that people confirm that aren't helpful anyway.

Solution?
Maybe just disconnect some of this proxies that aren't being used, and that are anyway near the server location.
(London, Madrid, Amsterdam) And in their place, can add some proxies that can actually be helpful to the community.
@Murloc

But I said above that we are looking for solutions. And these proxies (Madrid, etc.) were opened just so that players from South America could try them. But unfortunately they did not solve the problem. If suddenly you or your friends can tell me about a proxy for South America - just let them write to me

 

[Anmo]

But I said above that we are looking for solutions. And these proxies (Madrid, etc.) were opened just so that players from South America could try them. But unfortunately they did not solve the problem. If suddenly you or your friends can tell me about a proxy for South America - just let them write to me

Understood, thank you!
Will write here if we find something.
Now I understood what you meant.
Thanks again for the amazing project and support!

 

[Anmo]

 

[Anmo]

Fun fact: you are not supposed to lag over 5s when entering Giran.

Is what you posted able to be used by the administration you think to provide a more stable connection?

 

[Murloc]

Mudfish comes with these as selections:

Argentina - Buenos Aires - Lightnode https://www.lightnode.com/en-US/speed/ar-buenosaires-1
Chile - Santiago - Huawei https://activity.huaweicloud.com/intl/en-us/20190906203225224.html
Chile - Santiago - Lightnode https://go.lightnode.com/chile-vps
Chile - Santiago - Vultr https://www.vultr.com/
Brazil - Fortaleza - G-Core Labs https://gcore.com/
Brazil -Sao Paulo - G-Core Labs https://gcore.com/
Brazil -Sao Paulo - Psychz https://lg.sao.psychz.net/

Thanks! We will check it

 

[CMCanavessi]

But I said above that we are looking for solutions. And these proxies (Madrid, etc.) were opened just so that players from South America could try them. But unfortunately they did not solve the problem. If suddenly you or your friends can tell me about a proxy for South America - just let them write to me

They DO work, at least in my case. I'm in Argentina and the game works "fine", except when loading giran (takes like 15 seconds before you can move) or when farming big trains (70-100+ mobs) where everything freezes while they die and you see the log scrolling with the messages "you got X exp and Y SP". It's like data bunches up and takes a while to process.
Now last week I've been trying alternatives. Tested the free triel of ExitLag and was awesome. Ping went down from around 270ms to around 185-200, but freezes never happened again. It was fluid enough to play DURING the trains (and I'm a healer, I would know). But the 3-day trial ended so I had to look for another alternative. That's when I tried the in-game proxies. They don't alter ping, so I still have around 270 (or at least it feels that way, I can't meassure it exactly) but they fixed the freezes during trains that is exactly what I wanted.
So, all in all, they do help.

Edit: I tried the Amsterdam one and it works fine, but getting random disconnects every ~2 hours. Trying the Madrid now, rock solid. Been farming for 7 hours without an issue.

 

[dominion]

...when farming big trains (70-100+ mobs)Been farming for 7 hours without an issue...

you farm trains consisting of 100+ mobs???
you farm for 7 hours straight???

I have the light feeling of playing L2 in the wrong way

(do you have any kind of "charity weekend" where you lvl up some random players, like dagger for example, out of pure goodwill and unselfishness?)

 

[CMCanavessi]

After the update to C4, none of the proxies work.

 

[Anmo]

Any update ?

 

[Anmo]

Mudfish comes with these as selections:

Argentina - Buenos Aires - Lightnode https://www.lightnode.com/en-US/speed/ar-buenosaires-1
Chile - Santiago - Huawei https://activity.huaweicloud.com/intl/en-us/20190906203225224.html
Chile - Santiago - Lightnode https://go.lightnode.com/chile-vps
Chile - Santiago - Vultr https://www.vultr.com/
Brazil - Fortaleza - G-Core Labs https://gcore.com/
Brazil -Sao Paulo - G-Core Labs https://gcore.com/
Brazil -Sao Paulo - Psychz https://lg.sao.psychz.net/

Probably this didn't help the server, it's been some time and I don't see any update.
Do you have a way without paying money to play without lag in the server? Or nothing yet ?